Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:42:25 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n76DgPTg003490 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:42:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n76Dagp9029875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:36:42 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n76DM8Gl001169; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:36:34 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 290614 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:36:33 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n76DaXrN018764 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:36:33 +0200 Received: from ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk (ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk [139.222.131.184]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76DaGo7020161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:36:20 +0200 Received: from ueams02.uea.ac.uk (ueams02.uea.ac.uk [139.222.131.131]) by ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n76DaFqp030585 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:36:16 +0100 Received: from [139.222.203.158] by ueams02.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ38g-0005Rg-46 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:36:14 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A7921CF.5020803@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A7A1505.4040604@residenset.net> <4A7A726F.3080006@morningstar2.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Canit-CHI2: 0.00 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN, outgoing) X-CanItPRO-Stream: UEA:outgoing (inherits from UEA:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 27639021 - a2695eaac4a6 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 139.222.131.184 Message-ID: <4A7ADC50.9000700@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:36:16 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: xparse To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4A7A726F.3080006@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 13:42:25.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBBC4420:01CA169B] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5834 I wrote: >>> Is that a yes or no to my "harmless character sequences"? These can >>> handle data like URLs which might prompt people to go verbatim, but >>> they aren't implemented using \catcode changes. >> Not sure I understand -- even URLs need to sanitise % if they're used >> within an argument. > > I'm with Will: I'm not sure I follow :-( Okay, I looked at the xdoc2 code and have some feel for what you mean, I hope. I assume we are talking about \MakeHarmless, and applying it to the input. I can see that the space handling there is very careful, but I wonder what other differences there are between doing \MakeHarmless and using \detokenize (noting as Will has done that things like % have to be handled as full-verbatim due to the nested-macro issue). -- Joseph Wright