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([129.127.15.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d20sm14630796waa.47.2009.08.06.01.01.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-655536392; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) References: <4A7921CF.5020803@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A7A1505.4040604@residenset.net> <4A7A726F.3080006@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A7A857F.4010400@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:31:15 +0930 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: xparse To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4A7A857F.4010400@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 08:08:50.0605 (UTC) FILETIME=[21B225D0:01CA166D] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5827 --Apple-Mail-1-655536392 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/08/2009, at 4:55 PM, Joseph Wright wrote: > Suggestion (2): > > - o = standard optional LaTeX argument with no default value. > - d = delimited optional argument where both the delimiters and > default > must be given. > - b or n = optional braced argument (now have a choice!). I'm more in favour of having the single letter with a possible optional default. I still think that { o } and { o{default} } make the most sense. > This means that "o" is a shortcut for "d[]{\NoValue}", and that any > other case is handled "in full" using d. This seems like a reasonable > balance between making simple optional arguments easy and having a > consistent syntax: > > \DeclareDocumentCommand \foo { o m } { } > \DeclareDocumentCommand \foo { d[]{Stuff} m } { } > \DeclareDocumentCommand \foo { d(){0,0} m } { } % Optional co- > ordinates I like this way of doing coordinates. Could 'd{}{-default-}' be shoe- horned into this syntax as well? I suppose that would mean completely re-writing the parser. But then we wouldn't need another letter for my feature of limited value. 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