Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:37:26 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OCbQEW018708 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:37:26 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2OCYDYU029041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:34:13 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2O8wjf4001396; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:34:11 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 218548 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:56 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2OCXuDX006598 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:56 +0100 Received: from coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr (coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr [192.108.115.12]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2OCXgxu028468 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:46 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/2006.08.14) with ESMTP id n2OCXiVt012186 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:44 +0100 Received: from courrier.enst-bretagne.fr (smtps.enst-bretagne.fr [10.29.90.4]) by coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/2008.01.11) with ESMTP id n2OCXe5Q012145 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.36] (passerelle-interne.enst-bretagne.fr [192.108.117.210]) (user=eroux mech=PLAIN bits=0) by courrier.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/2006.06.07) with ESMTP id n2OCXZVJ030146 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <11ECEE9E-C040-44DF-9D1F-97281D9128ED@gmail.com> <49C8B459.5050201@telecom-bretagne.eu> <49C8C80B.3020504@elzevir.fr> <86eiwncer9.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <49C8D015.1070205@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enst-bretagne.fr Message-ID: <49C8D320.3070400@telecom-bretagne.eu> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:36 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Elie Roux Subject: Re: inputenc for XeTeX and LuaTeX To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <49C8D015.1070205@elzevir.fr> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 12:37:26.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A052370:01C9AC7D] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5731 Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > No one (at least not me) wants to impede progress. luainputenc and > xetexinputenc > are interesting and I'm glad they are being developed. The question is: Would it > be a real progress to have them called 'inputenc' (by whatever mechanism such > as kpse search path or something like Élie's suggestion)? > > In the current state of the packages, I don't think it would be a progress to > change the name to inputenc. And I also think there's no need to hurry deciding > whether it is a progress or not. > In the future LuaTeX will probably replace pdfTeX, so inputenc will load luainputenc. The question is not really to decide if it's good or not, it's to decide when we will do it. And I still can't really see why we should wait three more years... > If the user is aware enough of what's going on, she is probably able to > understand that she should use luainputenc instead of inputenc (or, much better, > (re-)encode her source as utf-8 and stop using *inputenc). > Just to repeat myself: (lua)inputenc is not optional in most cases, so the user will have to load luainputenc. This means that people working with LuaLaTeX will have to change their documents in 2012, replacing luainputenc by inputenc... I know it's not 100% stable so users must know what they're doing, but it still seems more annoying than the miracle solution for stability... -- Elie