Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:09:37 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2509b1u011344 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:09:37 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n2504OfB014667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:04:24 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n24N14QG015350; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:04:15 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 209889 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:04:15 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2504FhC022223 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:04:15 +0100 Received: from mailhub4.uq.edu.au (mailhub4.uq.edu.au [130.102.149.131]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2503taL031853 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:04:00 +0100 Received: from smtp4.uq.edu.au (smtp4.uq.edu.au [130.102.128.19]) by mailhub4.uq.edu.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2503p5M030982 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:03:51 +1000 Received: from uqexav01.soe.uq.edu.au (uqexav01.soe.uq.edu.au [130.102.4.248]) by smtp4.uq.edu.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2503phf010851 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:03:51 +1000 Received: from UQEXMB3.soe.uq.edu.au ([130.102.4.233]) by uqexav01.soe.uq.edu.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:03:50 +1000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <25ACCED19F93BC4E99A4513ED25D69EA0143075D@UQEXMB3.soe.uq.edu.au> thread-topic: \includegraphics, eps, pdf, and \write18 thread-index: Acmb0Pz7IhT/JwqrQwqsVW7bqK6J5gBU67gN References: <4150.1236064713@hehe.cl.cam.ac.uk> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 00:03:50.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD1E21A0:01C99D25] X-UQ-FilterTime: 1236211431 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on UQ Mailhub on 130.102.149.131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <25ACCED19F93BC4E99A4513ED25D69EA0143075D@UQEXMB3.soe.uq.edu.au> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:03:50 +1000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Kenneth Smith Subject: Re: \includegraphics, eps, pdf, and \write18 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5705 Thanks, Robin. This is the other major question I get asked: how do I make sure the = system reads my new collection of macros and not something elsewhere which has the same = name? That's why I used \UQincludegraphics. I've suggested that they label = their own packages MyOwnNamePackage (substitute appropriately for MyOwnName) to avoid = clashes - it's worked so far, but I then give them a very strong warning that the resulting source = code isn't transferable, and the safest way is to include it between \makeatletter [code inserted here] \makeatother in the preamble. TeX/LaTeX is good, and at least all the code is accessible, so with a = few years (decades?) of experience most requests can be answered fairly quickly - as long as = they consult me about problems. Cheers Ken Smith -----Original Message----- From: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project on behalf of Robin Fairbairns Sent: Tue 3/3/2009 5:18 PM To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Subject: Re: \includegraphics, eps, pdf, and \write18 =20 Kenneth Smith wrote: > Here at the University of Queensland, at a rough estimate, I spend as = much time > helping staff with the eps-pdf problem in graphics as with all their = other > problems in LaTeX combined. > I've occasionally thought about doing something with \includegraphics = after copying it to > \UQincludegraphics, but that would make most files using it not usable > outside UQ. a modified graphics package (however modified) doesn't solve the portability problem -- old versions of packages remain on people's machines for a very long time indeed. (i've got tetex 1, 2 and 3 on this machine, but then i'm that sort of person...) if _you_ have the up-to-date package (which works with the latest pdftex with the whizzy "selective" \write18) your document isn't going to work any better on my old machine than would a document using \UQincludegraphics robin