Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:15:27 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n23MFQGq013745 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:15:27 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n23M9VgJ024382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:31 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n23ISq1S032229; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:30 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 195789 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:29 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n23M9TvA004803 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:29 +0100 Received: from atlas.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (atlas.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.3]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n23M9838024191 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:12 +0100 Received: from remote239-22.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.239.22] helo=irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de) by atlas.informatik.uni-freiburg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LecnS-0002j8-TK for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:09:08 +0100 Received: by irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3C5F817DB0; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:49:23 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE References: <200903021910.n22JAUL17749@f7.net> <200903022158.n22LwNdY031012@edinburgh.nag.co.uk> <18861.40383.5784.382533@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <20090303214922.GA4383@irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:49:23 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: \includegraphics, eps, pdf, and \write18 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <18861.40383.5784.382533@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 22:15:27.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E92CCD0:01C99C4D] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5700 On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 10:14:39PM +0100, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > I agree with David, that such an integration would be best placed in > pdftex.def, wouldn't it? Or am we missing something? * The method of epstopdf is also useful for other drivers. I don't know a driver that supports all image formats. * grffile * bmpsize * ... > the .def file concept has been invented precisely for hiding the interface > pecularies from the high-level interface that is used in the LaTeX source and > that is precisely what we need here, or? I would rather say a new design for the missing stuff is needed, e.g.: * interface for .def files * command line options, program configuration * ... However, I doubt there will be enough energy to heat graphicx. Thus designing and writing a successor for graphicx seems the easier road. A candidate for this would be me because of my packages (see above). I am tempted, but I fear and know that I don't have the time for it (next weeks and months). Yours sincerely Heiko