Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:15:26 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1QMHiWs024031 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:17:44 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1QM9MYP011631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:09:23 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1QIpANT003276; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:09:05 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 197974 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:09:05 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1QM95mf030153 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:09:05 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1QM8uJF011500 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:09:00 +0100 Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F42F8A3AC8 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:08:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [194.97.246.2] (helo=uwe.lueck) by smtp08.web.de with esmtp (SSLv3:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LcoPA-0003Z0-00; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:08:32 +0100 X-Sender: uwe.lueck@pop3.web.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 References: <49A453A1.9040000@morningstar2.co.uk> <49A4F031.50405@morningstar2.co.uk> <49A4FE4F.6040304@morningstar2.co.uk> <27990a880902250600v21963220v319195a504107625@mail.gmail.com> <18853.41758.364009.703166@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <49A5A982.9050508@morningstar2.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Sender: uwe.lueck@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sLzpw+eiCuNkFnrptJfNsT4IF9YB/8rhNvZvs YZHgiggrBBrbf63qqonfpEAvz6iBxwmC8WcP0TDOUzKPrJyc53 aN+FZ6qKc= Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20090226230130.02645510@pop3.web.de> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:05:23 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCck?= Subject: de.wiki discusses deleting `LuaTeX' To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4FC01D1A74B64E8CAE19F781FD87A7C8@PC1> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2009 22:15:26.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9F9F110:01C9985F] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5693 The German Wikipedia article on LuaTeX, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuaTeX has been suggested for deletion -- does anybody want to contribute to the discussion? (Click in the box on top of the article page). Reason (or "reason") for suggestion: "irrelevant", since first stable version expected for 2010 only. I consider the level of the discussion not very high, even the defending votes are bad. (Just tried a better one.) Anyway, there is some general quarrel about deleting Wikipedia articles, some "movement" of "users" (editors) is organizing itself towards expressing annoyance about a trait of others which expresses itself as a tendency towards suggest articles for deletion all along. By contrast with the criterion or "reason" "too bad" (which allows rebirth with an improved try however), the criterion of "relevance" is delicate, since many articles in the Wikipedia are "relevant" only for experts on a certain field anyway. (Just posted this on texhax, maybe confusing recent texhax postings and recent latex-l postings.) !? Uwe.