Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:21:05 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1P7NJZi003516 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:23:19 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1P7GJuD002290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:16:19 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1P71Xnj015915; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:16:12 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 192024 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:16:12 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1P7GCaw017220 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:16:12 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1P7FwOi002191 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:16:01 +0100 Received: from cremornelane.demon.co.uk ([80.177.25.195] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LcDzq-0000Na-mz for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:15:58 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49A453A1.9040000@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1253 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <49A4F031.50405@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:16:01 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: Missing expl3 primitives To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2009 07:21:05.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F015110:01C99719] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5680 Will Robertson wrote: >> 1) Are there any other missing primitives? The other \every... >> primitives should (I think) not be used outside of the kernel, and so >> don't need to be worried about. > > Hmmmm, I actually think that we *should* provide access to these via a > well-defined mechanism. That might be an xpackage job, or maybe they'd > fit into \toks. But I'd hate to have to give them up (the reason they're > banned in LaTeX is just that they get overwritten, right? At least in > the case of \everypar). Okay, I'd suggest all in \toks_ (remembering that we'll need to pick up the primitives not the LaTeX2e versions for l3in2e). I guess we will need to do the same as LaTeX2e for the initex version of expl3, and remove direct access to the primitives in user space? > There > are also a bunch of pdfTeX primitives we're not using. I was imagining that this (being one of those engine-dependent things) was "for later". -- Joseph Wright