Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:14:14 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1OKGQTa000646 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:16:27 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n1OK8I0c024434 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:08:19 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1OJYOdb025540; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 188901 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1OK8Cda022436 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:08:12 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1OK7wck005357 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:08:02 +0100 Received: from cremornelane.demon.co.uk ([80.177.25.195] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Lc3ZO-0006xq-g1 for latex-l@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:07:58 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <49A453A1.9040000@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:08:01 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Missing expl3 primitives To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2009 20:14:14.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[76AEE040:01C996BC] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5678 Hello everyone, A while ago, I raised the issue of three (e-)TeX primitives which are missing from expl3 and which I think do need to be accessible to programmers: \endlinechar, \scantokens, and \everyeof. There are several other primitives that are deliberately not given general (non-D) names in expl3, but there are outstanding questions: 1) Are there any other missing primitives? The other \every... primitives should (I think) not be used outside of the kernel, and so don't need to be worried about. Am I right about this, and is there anything else missing. 2) How should the missing three (plus any others) be named. The current idea is, I think, something like: \endlinechar \l_char_endline_int \evereof \l_ior_eof_toks \scantokens \tlist_rescan:n Is this logical: are there any other suggestions? 3) Do the three primitives need to be accessible? I think it's hard to argue against \scantokens, at least. -- Joseph Wright