Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:50:31 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1O7qgE9010899 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:52:42 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1O7jqRm011394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:45:52 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1O7XBgf025540; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:45:52 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 182131 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:45:51 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1O7jpoP009900 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:45:51 +0100 Received: from srv2.thewebhostserver.com (srv2.thewebhostserver.com [91.204.209.1]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1O7jZSc011226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:45:39 +0100 Received: from [87.220.156.43] (helo=PC1) by srv2.thewebhostserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lbryx-0000HN-LL for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:45:38 +0000 References: <200902240018.n1O0IA428136@f7.net> <86ljrwb9o1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - srv2.thewebhostserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uni-heidelberg.de X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tex-tipografia.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-ID: <012ABF797B354831936D801C9B296E4C@PC1> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:45:44 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Javier Bezos Subject: Re: "Microkernel" comments To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -3.999 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2009 07:50:31.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[91868020:01C99654] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5675 > Karl Berry writes: > >> little reason to continue even with XeTeX. >> >> Just for the record, even in the hypothetical future where LuaTeX has >> caught up to XeTeX in terms of system font access and Arabic >> typesetting, Jonathan K once spoke to me about another reason why >> XeTeX will very likely always have a place: good typesetting of other >> minority scripts. This is, imo, the big advantage of LuaTeX over XeTeX: the latter relies on what the font provides, while the former allows changing their default behaviour to fix and extend their capabilities. >> Since everything in LuaTeX is being programmed from >> scratch, it seems highly unlikely it will ever support the variety of >> scripts that ICU et al. do. > [David:] > It would seem to suggest itself to me that one part of dropping XeTeX as > a separate project would entail module loader and interfaces into ICU. > Ideally, one would have built-in support for the more important LuaTeX > targets, with seamless ICU fallbacks for the rest. And... The aim is to provide tools to extract data from the fonts in a generic way, so that they could be used in a similar way XeTeX does -- no need to support scripts separately, and therefore no need to write "everything" from scratch. And... LuaTeX or XeTeX are essential for non English documents. The age of active characters, at last, coming to its end. (btw, I got a copy of Beginning Lua Programming, and in my free time I studying how to use Lua.) Cheers Javier