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(114-30-101-184.ip.adam.com.au [114.30.101.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm16352900rvb.1.2009.02.23.14.02.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:02:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--578674291; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) References: <49A25EC2.8040509@morningstar2.co.uk> <86ab8de69c.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <624A9DE4-B932-4A6E-AC77-37340563D0C7@gmail.com> <86d4d9cfnc.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <03A58409-1294-4846-8E27-869B39A8EC98@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:32:43 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: "Microkernel" comments To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <86d4d9cfnc.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -4 () RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2009 22:07:54.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CFFF510:01C99603] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5670 --Apple-Mail-5--578674291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi David, Thanks for the comments. Much food for thought for all of us. On 24/02/2009, at 2:24 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > To some degree it feels like we have a chaotic workshop with make- > shift > crafted tools all over the place and lots of shoestring and duct tape > and stuff. And we are trying to turn this into a factory by > discussing > the most systematic labels for shoeboxes that we are going to sort the > tools into, trying not to break too many contraptions in the process > of > sorting into separate pieces. Haha. Well, quite. I've mentioned a couple of times before that one of the big reasons I'm working on the expl3 code is that I wish I could use it straight away in my XeTeX packages. But I can't rely on using it while it's in the state I'm in, since I'm sure all who've used it will agree that -- as great as its ideas are -- it was overdue for a major tidy up. We at least need a stable base for the work that we do. Once that's done, I can go back to working on packages like fontspec, unicode-math, and (I hope) breqn as well. I think that counts as progress, but we'll wait and see how well that plan progresses. * * * > "Programming in Lua" is one of the best books I've read for > programming > in any language. Because it does not suggest the line of thought "to > tackle larger problems, expect a larger mess". Great, I look forward to reading it. 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