Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:06:37 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0N06YpB023042 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:06:35 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0N02ce0022975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:02:38 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0MN1Vxw019476; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:02:37 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 166446 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:02:37 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0N02aEP024842 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:02:36 +0100 Received: from web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.247]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n0N02Ohi018338 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:02:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 61753 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2009 00:02:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8qDOa9wVM1mA.iQR0_ednKZUHO0_lwCjyPDNKprJyE72VHP3O_mx59KcThtNjeqwntDF0jkfLc7zTDiO4g8MmH1qIuswJi5MEpRQHsHcAzpU5EkOb0fnvazGsC2nSnS0aVpKLLRpwM.qo2jQoFQ_AyvYR_dQg3hlYh6SpCb2S4J5GgDVTVgT0VaoOuY- Received: from [128.252.117.249] by web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:02:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <200901210053.n0L0ruB01889@f7.net> <10CECC07-759A-430E-A9C6-79335882801D@gmail.com> <4978DC9B.2080605@morningstar2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <62169.61704.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:02:23 -0800 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Paul Thompson Subject: Re: Key points of LaTex3 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2009 00:06:37.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[75B2C2C0:01C97CEE] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5630 I vote against \documenttype When switching from 2.09 to 2e, it was very confusing to have the two initiation strings so similar. It was hard to remember which was which, and I still sometimes need to look them up. If possible, it would be nice to have something quite different: \startdoc \docinit \initdocument Anything which sounds like the start of a document, but which is different from 2e, would be good. Paul Thompson Division of Biostatistics Washington University School of Medicine St Louis, MO 63108 314-747-3793 25 Signal Hill Blvd Belleville, IL 62223-1650 618-394-1246 ----- Original Message ---- From: William F Hammond To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:11:15 PM Subject: Re: Key points of LaTex3 Joseph Wright writes: > I'd imagine that LaTeX3 documents will start with something other than > \documentclass (let's call it \documenttype, for arguments sake). Given > the likely size of a LaTeX3 kernel, essentially the entire 2e kernel > could also be included without making it all that much bigger. If the > first line of the file is \documenttype, the 2e stuff is never used. On > the other hand, if \documentclass is found, the new kernel "bails out", > runs the current 2e code and the file is processed as a 2e document. I'd like to suggest that \documenttype, consistent with usage in the gellmu project, be reserved for a document under an abstract LaTeX-like markup instance that is equivalent to a document instance under an SGML (or XML) document type. I think something like \Documentclass (upper case) would make more sense for new regime documents written in LaTeX the typesetting language Cheers. -- Bill