Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:32:42 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0MNWde6022795 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:32:40 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0MNTFO8005444 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:29:16 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0MN1Vvm019476; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:29:13 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 166251 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:29:08 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0MNM6Aj021608 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:22:06 +0100 Received: from atlas.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (atlas.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.3]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0MNLsSR002353 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:58 +0100 Received: from remote239-19.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.239.19] helo=irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de) by atlas.informatik.uni-freiburg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LQ8ru-00001d-U5 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:52 +0100 Received: by irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3DA1E17BAB; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:57:49 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE References: <200901210053.n0L0ruB01889@f7.net> <10CECC07-759A-430E-A9C6-79335882801D@gmail.com> <4978DC9B.2080605@morningstar2.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <20090122225748.GB5988@irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:57:49 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Key points of LaTex3 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4978DC9B.2080605@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2009 23:32:42.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[B87CF170:01C97CE9] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5628 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 08:52:43PM +0000, Joseph Wright wrote: > Will Robertson wrote: > > From the way things look to me, that will basically be impossible. The > > changes between LaTeX3 and LaTeX2e are much greater than between 2e and > > 2.09. Perhaps a strict subset of LaTeX2e documents will be able to be > > processed with LaTeX3, but I think we'll end up with two distinct > > document processing systems. That is, I doubt that LaTeX2e will ever be > > "replaced" by LaTeX3 -- people who need backwards compatibility will > > have to use the old code. > > > > On the other hand, it might be possible to detect when a 2e document is > > being processed and "drop down" into the old code automatically, but > > it's probably too early to say since we're not even building a separate > > LaTeX3 format at this stage (well, I'm not, at least). > > I'd imagine that LaTeX3 documents will start with something other than > \documentclass (let's call it \documenttype, for arguments sake). Given > the likely size of a LaTeX3 kernel, essentially the entire 2e kernel > could also be included without making it all that much bigger. If the > first line of the file is \documenttype, the 2e stuff is never used. On > the other hand, if \documentclass is found, the new kernel "bails out", > runs the current 2e code and the file is processed as a 2e document. In theory. In practice, you can or sometimes even must have some stuff before \documentclass/\documenttype. Example: \RequirePackage{cmap}% before the class loads fonts \documentclass{myclass} Yours sincerely Heiko