Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:38:54 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0KNcqRS029297 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:38:53 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0KNZpEu026486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:35:51 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0KN1ELt016931; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:35:50 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 185996 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:35:50 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0KNZowc021236 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:35:50 +0100 Received: from mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0KNZj6b019848 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:35:48 +0100 Received: from mole.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.151]) by mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 1LPQ8C-0002ou-00 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:35:40 +0000 Received: from mole.cl.cam.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mole.cl.cam.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADECC4A179 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:35:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: MH-E 8.0.2; nmh 1.2; GNU Emacs 21.3.1 Message-ID: <12077.1232494540@mole.cl.cam.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:35:40 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Robin Fairbairns Subject: Re: Persian format of LaTeX To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:47:32 +0100. <18806.21636.35985.748784@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2009 23:38:54.0445 (UTC) FILETIME=[4195E1D0:01C97B58] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5607 Frank Mittelbach wrote: > > I also wrote the xepersian package which you > > can find in CTAN. Let me clarify that my work is going to replace the other > > packages and systems providing Persian typesetting in TeX. Also please note > > that farsitex is a dead project and it is based on latex2.09 not latex 2e, > > yes, I noticed that following the link that Joseph supplied, that looks like a > dead end I agree. > > > so the main aim here is to write something which works with latex2e. I also > > agree that having a seperate latex format is difficult and time consuming > > but I have so much passion about Persian typesetting in LaTeX that will put > > all my energy for it. Also Polish and another language (which I do not > > remember) format of latex are avaliable. > > I'm not sure there are such formats these days. oh, there are. while i can't actually find a reference, there was a conflict during the development of tl2008, about who had the right to the name "ptex" -- there were polish formats under than name, as well as a japanese tex system. i don't actually understand what they do, but afaict, the japanese have their own latex setup, though it seems that the polish are quietly forgetting theirs. > There might be special > distributions that package stuff otherwise not bundled with TeX/LaTeX > normally, but different formats? But even if, the question remains what you > gain. if you have to load 20 packages just to get going, i believe it's difficult to ignore david's mylatex, even allowing for the speed of modern machines. > Anyway, I'm looking forward to learn more about language needs for Persian > (and other languages) that so far admittedly have been neglected (in parts > because the developers within LaTeX didn't understand them me too. the printed language is actually rather beautiful, even for those (like me) who don't read it at all. robin