Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:23:21 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0KNNJH5029177 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:23:20 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0KNKHH5032489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:20:18 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0KN1EJ9016931; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:20:17 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 185670 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:20:14 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0KNBpwo018645 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:11:51 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0KNBpEj010951 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:11:55 +0100 Received: from morse.mittelbach-online.de (p54A845AF.dip.t-dialin.net [84.168.69.175]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwtQ-1LPPl51d0r-0004rg; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:11:47 +0100 Received: by morse.mittelbach-online.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id 81ABF65A16; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:11:44 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <18806.21636.35985.748784@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <200901202257.n0KMvNW27462@f7.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19nNJ0uAXKEM85qiAuWdsFPb+4zjendp0ZOt92 IfcPsOL8t50m45MPbzDIiB4twHsicJ+b/ls6NPrICYR8kA8jh+ pTck6PzX+UMwJnkppHZ+IZzGEurzEE/ X-Spam-Whitelist-Provider: Message-ID: <18806.23088.292908.886989@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:11:44 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Frank Mittelbach Subject: Re: Persian format of LaTeX To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <200901202257.n0KMvNW27462@f7.net> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -102.464 () BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2009 23:23:21.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[15A29430:01C97B56] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5606 Karl, I stand corrected. > I'm not sure there are such formats these days. > > mex still exists. > cs(la)tex still exists. I don't know about mex (what is that?) but is cs(la)tex doing anything other than hyphenation support and font stuff? > Not saying they are completely independent of latex (they aren't), but > they do exist as separate formats. actually you are right they provided some hacking into input encoding support in case of cslatex if I remember correctly (but then perhaps I don't) but most if not all of that should be doable via a package rather than via a format. Hpyhenation is a different story though. > But even if, the question remains what you gain. > > Indeed. :-) but perhaps there are 'night frank