Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:03:28 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0KB3QAw022595 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:03:27 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0KAxsOt031821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:59:54 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0JN6O9t030737; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:59:53 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 173128 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:59:53 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0KAxrZi001236 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:59:53 +0100 Received: from mailgate5.uea.ac.uk (mailgate5.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.185]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0KAxd8K031573 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:59:42 +0100 Received: from [139.222.131.131] (helo=ueams02.uea.ac.uk) by mailgate5.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPEKZ-0004hO-4A for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:59:39 +0000 Received: from [139.222.114.191] by ueams02.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPEKZ-0006DF-3b for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:59:39 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4975AE9B.4020409@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:59:39 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: Missing primitives' functionality in expl3 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2009 11:03:28.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[B905A5D0:01C97AEE] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5601 Will Robertson wrote: > Hi Joseph and others, > > Sorry to have to ask this but I was a bit disorganised last year... a > few primitives have been brought up that don't have proper interfaces in > expl3 yet. I left myself a note to look at this but neglected to write > down which ones were actually missing! > > At the moment I've got > > \scantokens > \everyeof > \endlinechar > > with proposals > > l3toks: \toks_rescan:n > l3io: \l_ior_eof_toks > l3token: \l_char_end_line_int (?) > > (All from a thread last year on the same topic.) > > Do you happen to remember if there are any others? > > Will > Those were the three that I wanted to use and couldn't in any other way. Although they are all low-level, I'd say that they are also legitimate to want outside of the kernel. A quick look at l3names and source3.pdf suggests there are a lot of other primitives which only have :D names (particularly the pdfTeX ones). However, I suspect most of these should only be available within the kernel, so it's probably not an issue. (For example, things like \skipdef are only :D, as far as I can see.) -- Joseph Wright