Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:09:57 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0KA9tdF022040 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:09:56 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0KA2KbT004034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:02:20 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0JN6O3P030737; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:02:19 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 171788 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:02:19 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0K9qJwt025193 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:52:19 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f21.google.com (mail-bw0-f21.google.com [209.85.218.21]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0K9qGKg001644 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:52:19 +0100 Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so9831344bwz.10 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:52:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.148.3 with SMTP id a3mr2426729bko.74.1232445134763; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:52:14 -0800 (PST) References: <49758499.5080004@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a3c5fc57fdab1012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <68c491a60901200152y55297cc3wa784e4082ceb5e3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:52:14 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Subject: Re: Key points of LaTex3 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <49758499.5080004@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2009 10:09:57.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F11B950:01C97AE7] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5597 2009/1/20 Joseph Wright : > I've had a go at summarising the key aims of LaTeX3, as I understand > them, on my blog (http://www.texdev.net). I'd be interested to know Very interesting, thanks. However, most of these aims bring no direct benefit for the user, while other areas where LaTeX is sorely showing it's age, e.g. hyperref, are missing. I think any LaTeX3 release without a direct integration of hyperref's features will not attract many users. The same goes for document classes (e.g. KOMA) and a much better integration of utf8 and fonts. Best Martin