Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:28:21 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n04GSJG0003595 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:28:20 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n04GPNDk020587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:23 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n03N1HOV012441; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:20 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 185061 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:20 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n04GPKtW010566 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:20 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n04GPINH020546 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:21 +0100 Received: from morse.mittelbach-online.de (p54A87FD1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.168.127.209]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML21M-1LJVmu1fSt-0007af; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:25:16 +0100 Received: by morse.mittelbach-online.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id A140361B47; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:13 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown References: <495F8D32.3080703@morningstar2.co.uk> <18784.57279.169516.67064@morse.mittelbach-online.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/rN5J+MnYFffGicHcFuKwKc7+wEa2Y23xW/hW t779lBvQTtQUrKay/eJWHpmqhLajWP6sNknwSNo5ItNRFocAuV xp5VIkfBUpDOK9pYxsPO6ZRDvvbkN0j X-Spam-Whitelist-Provider: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id n04GPKtW010567 Message-ID: <18784.58089.620283.579053@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:25:13 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Frank Mittelbach Subject: Re: \begin{} ... \end{} To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -102.464 () BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2009 16:28:21.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[7567C680:01C96E89] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5581 Rainer Schöpf writes: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 at 17:11 +0100, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > > > reasons but mimicking envionments with corresponding infernal forms seems to > ^^^^^^^^ > > me is mixing up different levels of access in the wrong manner. > > Quite! > > Rainer :-) > (who is not ready to sell his soul) tough :-)