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Joseph Wright wrote:
> Arno Trautmann wrote:
>> My opinion about the \begin<env>=E2=80=93\end<env>: I don=E2=80=99t li=
ke it at all.
>> ConTeXt uses \startenv =E2=80=93 \endenv, which is a bit better. A per=
fect thing
>> would be: \envstart =E2=80=93 \envend. Reason: autocompletion works mu=
ch better.
>> Now I always have to type \begin{do <tab> to get \begin{document} as
>> completion. With \documentstart it would only be \do <tab>. I don=E2=80=
=99t know
>> if anybody here likes this, but Joseph asked for discussions=E2=80=A6
>=20
> Interesting idea, and takes the best from what is about (ConTeXt, in
> this case) and learns from it.

So it should be :)

>  It seems pretty much a given that
> LaTeX2e documents won't work "out of the box" with LaTeX3, so it is
> certainly worth thinking about this type of change.
>=20
> Thinking where this takes us, something like:
>=20
> \latexstart

What is this good for?=E2=80=A6

> \loadclass{article}
>=20
> \loadmodule{whatever-module}
>=20
> \documentstart
>=20
> Some text
>=20
> \itemizestart
>   \item An item
>   \item Another one
> \itemizeend
>=20
> \documentend
>=20
> \latexend
>=20
> perhaps?  Rather more ConTeXt-like than I'm used to, but also quite cle=
ar.

Now that I read code not written by me, I notize a disadvantage: It=E2=80=
=99s
much harder to distinguish macros from environments. Maybe

\itemize_start
  \item
  \item
\itemize_end

might be better?

cheers
Arno


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