Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:23:06 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB4KN4vS023145 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:23:05 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB4KIacU008251 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:18:37 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB3N1cad008667; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:18:28 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 192978 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:18:28 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB4KISif015665 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:18:28 +0100 Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB4KIP97029943 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:18:29 +0100 Received: from cremornelane.demon.co.uk ([80.177.25.195] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1L8KeN-00004c-WR for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:18:15 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4936E30A.5080209@morningstar2.co.uk> <87ljuxlybp.fsf@fawkes.hogwarts> <039B3783CD514B509970052B8B93789E@JavierPC> <27990a880812040533x3316ce17n3e5ae0777b9590c@mail.gmail.com> <031B4E01889C40D384D5F3F50B32C65A@JavierPC> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <49383B0C.7000601@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:18:20 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: expl3 "token list" terminology To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <031B4E01889C40D384D5F3F50B32C65A@JavierPC> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2008 20:23:07.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E2FD9A0:01C9564E] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5500 Javier Bezos wrote: >> probably the time to discuss things again. I think the recent letters >> by Morten, Joseph and I on the different "argument specifications" >> showed that there are many different cases to consider, and also lots >> of scope for different solutions. > > Many, too many. This might lead to a combinatorial explosion. > > Another point was the inconsistency in the prefix identifying > the module (I proposed something like \module:name:suffix, but > I'm not sure this is feasible because how : is handled). My take, as an outsider looking in, is that although there are always ways to improve things, the current expl3 is not too bad at all. If LaTeX3 is ever going to be more than a collection of interesting coding ideas for TeX programmers, there does need to be a delivery point. That will only happen if at some point expl3 is considered "finalised". (I know I keep saying this, but I'm keen that it happens sooner rather than later.) -- Joseph Wright