Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:30:38 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB48UaaO014714 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:30:37 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB48POh9006082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:25:24 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB3N1cqt008667; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:25:20 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 185731 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:25:20 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB48PKiH017271 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:25:20 +0100 Received: from mailgate5.uea.ac.uk (mailgate5.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.185]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB48P5pJ005284 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:25:08 +0100 Received: from [139.222.128.187] (helo=ueams04.uea.ac.uk) by mailgate5.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L89WD-0001Z7-2a for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:05 +0000 Received: from [139.222.114.191] by ueams04.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L89WD-0002js-1E for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:05 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4936E30A.5080209@morningstar2.co.uk> <87ljuxlybp.fsf@fawkes.hogwarts> <039B3783CD514B509970052B8B93789E@JavierPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <493793E2.1060202@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:25:06 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: expl3 "token list" terminology To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <039B3783CD514B509970052B8B93789E@JavierPC> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2008 08:30:38.0877 (UTC) FILETIME=[9647DCD0:01C955EA] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5496 Javier Bezos wrote: >> LaTeX3 is already far away from TeX. Maybe too far. Don't push >> it even farther away by reinventing terms and definitions. > > Agreed, definitely. I think it's time to simplify the syntax, > getting the essential. Working with LaTeX3, and particularly reading through the source at the moment (to use some of the stuff in LaTeX2e), I'm impressed by how well everything works. I'd agree that some things can be dropped, but I don't think the team are too far off from something that should work very nicely. -- Joseph Wright