Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:30:40 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB3NUZpO003256 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:30:36 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB3NQs65031790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:26:55 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB3N1ci5008667; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:26:45 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 182463 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:26:45 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB3NQjCg011262 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:26:45 +0100 Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB3NRIw0010326 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:27:22 +0100 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f9so3735190rvb.1 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr3402223rvd.2.1228346800294; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.102? (219-90-188-36.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.188.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm13802287rvb.1.2008.12.03.15.26.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:26:39 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) References: <4936B4E9.6010601@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id mB3NQjCg011263 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:56:34 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: \if_meaning:NN To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4936B4E9.6010601@gmx.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2008 23:30:41.0018 (UTC) FILETIME=[27A6E5A0:01C9559F] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5493 On 04/12/2008, at 3:03 AM, Arno Trautmann wrote: > why is \if:w, but \if_meaning:NN, \if_cs_meaning:NN and > \if_token_eq:NN? > The syntax is the same in all cases – I would have expected :w after > all. \if:w corresponds to the primitive \if, whereas \if_meaning:NN and so on are \ifx. From TeX by Topic: > After \if TEX will expand until two unexpandable tokens are > obtained, so it is necessary to prefix expandable control sequences > and active characters with \noexpand when testing them with \if. So while \if does take two tokens as input, it will also expands them in a weird kind of way; actually, it might even be possible to name it \if:ff ! But I'm not really for that idea :) * * * Regarding the three different names for \ifx -- yes, that needs to be cleaned up; but in the end there still may well be more than one name for it. (Well, I'm not opposed to the idea, at least.) Cheers, Will