Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:16:03 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAO8G17l022656 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:16:01 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mAO8CLT0016198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:12:22 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mANAMS0L001634; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:12:18 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 166483 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:12:18 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mAO8CIfe029229 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:12:18 +0100 Received: from mailgate5.uea.ac.uk (mailgate5.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.185]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAO8C3Xp029718 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:12:07 +0100 Received: from [139.222.128.187] (helo=ueams04.uea.ac.uk) by mailgate5.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L4WVK-0001pT-6A for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:09:10 +0000 Received: from [139.222.202.13] by ueams04.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L4WVK-0006UF-44 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:09:10 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49293F92.2080401@morningstar2.co.uk> <6898DF36-24E2-465E-9958-7AA38C4C1AE6@gmail.com> <492A511D.1070507@morningstar2.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <492A6126.80908@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:09:10 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: l3quark/l3tlp To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2008 08:16:03.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[E49824C0:01C94E0C] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5458 Will Robertson wrote: > Before we start solving the problem properly, we should answer the > question: "are the modules *supposed* to be able to be loaded > independently?". I'm not the one to answer that... Once you try to do anything useful, then I'd say "no". For example, I've nearly finished my number parser, numparse3. A test document gives the following \listfiles output: *File List* article.cls 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class size10.clo 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX file (size option) numparse3.sty 2008/11/23 v1 Number parsing for LaTeX3 l3names.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental Naming Scheme for TeX Primitive s l3prop.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental Property Lists l3toks.sty 2008/09/14 v813 L3 Experimental Token Registers l3expan.sty 2008/09/19 v831 L3 Experimental Argument Expansion module l3tlp.sty 2008/11/24 v847 L3 Experimental Token List Pointers l3basics.sty 2008/11/23 v845 L3 Experimental basic definitions l3num.sty 2008/09/18 v826 L3 Experimental token numbers l3quark.sty 2008/09/17 v824 L3 Experimental Quark Commands keys3.sty 2008/10/31 v21 Key management for LaTeX3 l3keyval.sty 2008/09/12 v807 L3 Experimental keyval processing l3int.sty 2008/09/16 v822 L3 Experimental Integer module l3token.sty 2008/09/18 v828 L3 Experimental token investigation and manipul ation l3prg.sty 2008/09/30 v839 L3 Experimental control structures l3messages.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental LaTeX Messages module l3io.sty 2008/09/13 v808 L3 Experimental i/o module l3clist.sty 2008/09/30 v839 L3 Experimental comma separated lists which seems to cover most of expl3. If I then explicitly load expl3, it adds: expl3.sty 2008/09/30 v839 L3 Experimental code bundle wrapper l3box.sty 2008/09/12 v807 L3 Experimental Box module l3calc.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental calc module l3skip.sty 2008/10/30 v844 L3 Experimental skip registers l3precom.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental precompilation module l3seq.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental sequences and stacks l3xref.sty 2008/09/15 v817 L3 Experimental cross referencing I'm sure that most of those will soon appear once I start on "xsiunitx", so for real users I don't see the need to have the modules independent. -- Joseph Wright