Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:13:12 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAO2D9j6020758 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:13:10 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAO28nUG011330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:08:49 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mANAMSrp001634; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:08:39 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 165922 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:08:39 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mAO28dqG002760 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:08:39 +0100 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.240]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAO28a2R011263 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:08:40 +0100 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1943738rvf.10 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.211.13 with SMTP id n13mr1594251rvq.217.1227492513705; Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.100? (122-49-160-236.ip.adam.com.au [122.49.160.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm6512853rvb.8.2008.11.23.18.08.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:08:32 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) References: <49293F92.2080401@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <6898DF36-24E2-465E-9958-7AA38C4C1AE6@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:38:27 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: l3quark/l3tlp To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <49293F92.2080401@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2008 02:13:12.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[33B10BE0:01C94DDA] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5455 On 23/11/2008, at 10:03 PM, Joseph Wright wrote: > Will has now added l3quark to the load list for l3tlp, > *but* l3quark already requires l3expan, which itself requires l3tlp. :) Hi Joseph and others, Thanks for tracking this down. I've made the temporary fix as you suggested. I've been doing all my testing with \usepackage{expl3} rather than loading the modules individually. I've been meaning to stop doing this; I've now translated the small amount of code in regression-test that was written in expl3 to plain ol' LaTeX so that module loading itself can be tested by the files in the test suite. (The already- written tests just need a couple of tweaks so the regression results don't need to be changed.) *** This brings up the question: is there any reason for us to keep the modules logically separate? An easy fix might be to add \RequirePackage{expl3} to the top of each l3module. Regarding the best way to fix this particular problem with l3tlp, an alternative is to move \use_none_delimit_by_q_recursion_stop:w into l3basics, where are also defined "\use_none_delimit_by_q_nil:w" and so on. Any thoughts? Will