Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:47:32 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9O8lPaY022798 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:47:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9O8hPge026241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9NM1mV4026511; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:12 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 48380 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:10 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9O8hAua010896 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:10 +0200 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m9O8h5xI032488 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:09 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e27so397011nfd.30 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.45.17 with SMTP id s17mr1962346ebs.144.1224837785793; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.123.11 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:43:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48FC367F.4010509@morningstar2.co.uk> <2F66DF40-E3DA-4831-AF83-19D4B4E2949A@gmail.com> <48FC7667.40004@morningstar2.co.uk> <18684.44761.952538.461788@morse.mittelbach-online.de> X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <859ec5630810240143g6c1daedesd4e44f888fb474c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:05 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morten_H=F8gholm?= Subject: Re: :nFT tests To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <18684.44761.952538.461788@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2008 08:47:32.0866 (UTC) FILETIME=[27BA8E20:01C935B5] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5406 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > Joseph Wright writes: > > Will Robertson wrote: > > > I noticed that recently too. I think it would be better to remove that > > > variant in the expl3 syntax, since it doesn't seem like it adds much of > > > importance but it adds a bit of obfuscation. > > > > As you probably guessed from the question, that would be my preferred > > solution too. > > I agree with both of you.let's mark it as obsolete for now and wait for Morten > to speak up who introduced it (I guess) It is used in a few cases such as \def_long:Npn \tlp_if_in:NnTF #1#2{ \def_long:Npn\tmp:w ##1 #2 ##2\q_stop{ \quark_if_no_value:nFT{##2} } \exp_after:NN \tmp:w #1 #2 \q_no_value \q_stop } If there was no FT variant, this function would either have to read the TF arguments twice or the quark test would have to be done manually. The FT variant was never meant to be heavily used - just a shuffle variant so to speak. -- Morten