Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:38:14 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8KIc7Gr014336 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:38:08 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8KIXfPN027339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:33:41 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8JM1Efm008179; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:33:40 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 39360 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:33:40 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8KIXd8Y023184 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:33:39 +0200 Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8KIXKgF027195 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:33:24 +0200 Received: from morningstar2.demon.co.uk ([80.176.134.7] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Kh7Gn-00011a-PX for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:33:25 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18645.1705.460950.360763@morse.mittelbach-online.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <48D541F4.3000407@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:33:24 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: l3messages To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <18645.1705.460950.360763@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2008 18:38:14.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A6ED8A0:01C91B50] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5378 Frank Mittelbach wrote: > > sorry for joining so late ... yes you are absolutely right, this module needs > even more than just "some" attention. It is one of those modules that date > back to the very first version of expl3 (predating LaTeX2e even). > > so it isn't really surprising it it is much more concerned with saving space > etc than it would need to these days. yes this needs a complete new design I think Will made some very useful suggestions on what might be nice from the point of view of a package author. The idea of a centralised debug/info/warning/error message is a particularly nice one. So having a separate message defining and message using functions is an idea I like. -- Joseph Wright