Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:31:06 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8D6V1r2024983 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:31:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8D6SBfR029395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:28:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8CM1JiY006892; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:28:10 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 29624 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:28:10 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8D6S9hk007447 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:28:09 +0200 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8D6RutT029225 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:28:00 +0200 Received: from morningstar2.demon.co.uk ([80.176.134.7] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1KeObs-000HAL-3p for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:27:56 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48CAE551.3020004@morningstar2.co.uk> <7D36A23D-7FC0-45F0-A573-C74CF564A723@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <48CB5D6D.9060805@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:27:57 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: Broken things To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <7D36A23D-7FC0-45F0-A573-C74CF564A723@gmail.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2008 06:31:06.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D5B5E40:01C9156A] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5309 Will Robertson wrote: > > Also, is it redundant to have checks for eTeX since we're requiring it, > anyway? > I'm also guessing we can drop the aleph conditional these days? The current expl3 bundle doesn't actually complain if one does \let\eTeXversion\undefined before loading expl3. So the test is still valid until that changes: \documentclass{article} \let\eTeXversion\undefined % Or use plain TeX, of course \usepackage{expl3} \begin{document} \csname engine_if_etex:F\endcsname {NO ETEX!!!} \end{document} -- Joseph Wright