Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:39:05 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8AJcx0j020762 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:39:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8AJYEiv020451 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:34:15 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8AI4G5Q030740; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:34:11 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 33178 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:34:11 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m8AJYBEe004256 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:34:11 +0200 Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8AJXvDe020156 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:34:02 +0200 Received: from cremornelane.demon.co.uk ([80.177.25.195] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1KdVRs-000IRN-Kw for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:33:56 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8D5403E89293A448A409DDDD1531CE1801951A53@defrm202.emea.corp.eds.com> <48C6A2C3.7030203@morningstar2.co.uk> <18632.7085.805761.721446@morse.mittelbach-online.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <48C8211E.4020904@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:33:50 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: def:NNn --- was tlp type To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <18632.7085.805761.721446@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2008 19:39:05.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2BD2990:01C9137C] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5280 Frank Mittelbach wrote: > > > > On the counter discussion, you'll see (in xnotes2bib) I've stuck with > > the low-level variant but needing to make it available to the user. I > > hope this is the right idea. > > what we really need to do is to provide a user level interface for that, that > then can be reused at package level for offering user accessible counters I see I meant to say: but *without* needing to ... which make more sense! Something for the use level would be nice, though. I was not sure if \newcounter is intended to stay in any case (I guess lots of the documentated LaTeX commands for package authors, such as \PackageWarning, will fall in the "to be retained" class). -- Joseph Wright