Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:19:29 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m89GJO4q009229 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:19:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89GDh8B005136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:43 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m88M19n0015958; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:42 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 28344 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:42 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m89GDgdF003541 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:42 +0200 Received: from spmler2.mail.eds.com (spmler2.mail.eds.com [194.128.225.188]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m89GDVWo031161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:36 +0200 Received: from spmlir2.mail.eds.com (spmlir2-2.mail.eds.com [205.191.69.204]) by spmler2.mail.eds.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m89GDQC3001012 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:13:26 +0100 Received: from spmlir2.mail.eds.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by spmlir2.mail.eds.com (8.13.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m89GDD5R015927 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:13:13 +0100 Received: from DERUM100.emea.corp.eds.com ([145.16.186.33]) by spmlir2.mail.eds.com (8.13.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m89GDDdX015921 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:13:13 +0100 X-EDSINT-Source-Ip: 145.16.186.33 Received: from defrm202.emea.corp.eds.com ([145.16.186.18]) by DERUM100.emea.corp.eds.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:14 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: tlp type thread-index: AckSjzoaDkt83BpdRSivF7JTSyIhIQABwWzQ X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2008 16:13:14.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6200DE0:01C91296] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id m89GDgdF003542 Message-ID: <8D5403E89293A448A409DDDD1531CE1801951A5F@defrm202.emea.corp.eds.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:13:10 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: "Mittelbach, Frank" Subject: AW: tlp type To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: A<48C6928F.4060401@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5257 to answer from my perspective: i prefer \def:Npn over \def:NNn even for a function without arguments. I already wrote why i think there should not be any \def:NNn in the first place but beside that, having #1 #2 ... in case there are arguments is far more important to me than not having anything in case of no arguments (and the "p" stands out fairly well as well) ... but clearly those are all fairly subjective feelings about the universe frank -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project [mailto:LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE] Im Auftrag von Joseph Wright Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. September 2008 17:13 An: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Betreff: Re: tlp type Will Robertson wrote: > > \def:Npn \store_something: {Something} > > (I prefer it without the "0" argument spec.) > I was wondering about this. For macros with no arguments, I was thinking :NNn has the advantage that the second N is "seen", whereas Npn has an invisible p argument.