Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 16 May 2008 01:31:09 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FNV63e004303 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 01:31:06 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FNDxpe014389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 May 2008 01:14:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4FM13F1029761; Fri, 16 May 2008 01:15:42 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 6282 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 16 May 2008 01:15:41 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4FNFfS1001399 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 01:15:41 +0200 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.248]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FNDjBl014303 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 01:13:49 +0200 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so679814rvf.10 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.187.10 with SMTP id k10mr1416552rvf.86.1210893336268; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.144.13 with HTTP; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:15:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <85BC623C-4952-4585-BC7E-4B3F75CA5A10@gmail.com> <1A8B3E0C-24D3-4D27-A649-395D2035FB34@gmail.com> <867idv1vuk.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <27990a880805151615x55406988w74e2af2b0cbcbd1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:45:36 +0930 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: Replacing inputenc for XeTeX/LuaTeX To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <867idv1vuk.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2008 23:31:09.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[C13B0080:01C8B6E3] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5208 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:02 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > We would not want to have an external package dependency like that if we > wanted to make this part of the LaTeX base package. So we would likely > check for \XeTeXversion ourselves here. Oh, of course :) > Also we would not want to go over Jonathan's head here: are you in > contact with him? We certainly would want to provide a solution that > does not mess up his plans and the typical use cases of XeTeX users. Well, the discussion here has flourished rather more than I expected it would. He's not too fussed about the LaTeX side of things (broadly speaking) and I'm sure he'd certainly be happy if inputenc was less of a hassle for new users. I'll keep him informed via the XeTeX mailing list of the result of the discussion here. (If it's fixed in LaTeX proper, it's out of his, and my, hands; if we write our own inputenc then he might have more to say about it.) Will