Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:03:20 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1CM3KAJ012947 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:03:20 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1CLrV2B013013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:53:31 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1CFiv94001608; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:57:28 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 223762 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:57:28 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1CLvSQq032173 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:57:28 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1CLrOQV012932 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:53:29 +0100 Received: from morse.mittelbach-online.de (p4FD45CD2.dip.t-dialin.net [79.212.92.210]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwtQ-1JP37z0FeR-0005R3; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:57:23 +0100 Received: by morse.mittelbach-online.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id BBD0B23EF6; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:57:19 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <306593.50032.qm@web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/+pJ+9Ld8IqabP/9Kk6UVECZTd2O71n5BW4O5 aF3QztOLYVFdVPCOlro+SdX1kWzvuTJrK3kBlX1Kva+BKV0+2T 5PCZE+03oDz3N4xBHjoRj/pK+LI4huS X-Spam-Whitelist-Provider: Message-ID: <18354.5695.47527.501906@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:57:19 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Frank Mittelbach Subject: Re: Internal and external page setup control To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <306593.50032.qm@web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -102.464 () BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2008 22:03:21.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[14848AA0:01C86DC3] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5169 Paul, > What about a simplistic solution, in which you have a flag to 1) change > regardless of floats - it's your problem or 2) not change if floats are > present? After all, you, the writer are putting out floats. They don't > come from the Land of Floats. If you want to change dimensions, you either > set the flag to force dimensional change or you don't put out the floats. > As I say, simplistic. that is an approach and it may solve some problems but not the problem that this OR is intending to tackle and resolve: multicolumn layout with flexible float handling so using an interface that says "don't do that then" isn't really what I'm looking for frank