Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:22:36 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBHJMUbS008171 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:22:31 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBHJCT33017204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:12:29 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBHGMudn004022; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:40 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.0) with spool id 242417 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:39 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBHJEdf3010826 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:39 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBHJCJqW016933 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:12:23 +0100 Received: from morse.mittelbach-online.de (p54A9888E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.169.136.142]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1J4LQA1b49-0003XM; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:34 +0100 Received: by morse.mittelbach-online.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id CB78E61BA0; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:33 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 References: <68c491a60712170845q623c0374g29ab5b4fe9583d9@mail.gmail.com> <68c491a60712170850q4c017d8s126f960c136840d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19GXlnGR0CfL9FA1DuDswMVupwKhyeiWKzloHB 3NAsAaMNdkY1rygLxpmnPaxgQTJ5LKv09JI5vTJhAV1wSDHGKn ziOzfs4CDeV80BXUxQGOD9Ld21SkUH5 X-Spam-Whitelist-Provider: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id lBHJEdf3010827 Message-ID: <18278.51865.681663.545074@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:33 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Frank Mittelbach Subject: Re: The LaTeX Design Companion To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <68c491a60712170850q4c017d8s126f960c136840d0@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -102.464 () BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2007 19:22:36.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E4F3AB0:01C840E2] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5130 Martin Schröder writes: > 2007/12/17, Martin Schröder : > > Is that just the usual bogus entry at Amazon or is there really hope? > > And we have > http://www.amazon.de/LaTex3-Style-Guide-Reference-Manual/dp/0201600242/ > > # Taschenbuch: 400 Seiten > # Verlag: Addison Wesley (28. Juni 2010) > # Sprache: Englisch > # ISBN-10: 0201600242 > # ISBN-13: 978-0201600247 > > :-)) both are bogus entries haunting me from time to time ... it seems that they in one or the other form have their own life and reappear from time to time. Both of them date back to never finalized ideas from the mid-nineties and nobody knows (or truthfully says :-) how they escaped into semi-official catalogues. But getting them out seems hopeless I tried several times. Interesting to see that the publication dates get pushed in the future from time to time (last time I saw them you could order at least one of the books :-) anyway, they aren't fully untrue (despite that David Carlson is somebody I don't know but David Carlisle is somebody I do know) I have since about 2000 a 200 page draft for the Design book somewhere and that is about as far as the rumor fits reality. No comment on how real any of these dates could be or if those books ever will surface ... but at least the OR for all this is slowly getting along :-) > > Best > Martin >