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Subject: Re: [NTG-pdftex] \expanded
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:33:14 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:

> Morten Høgholm <morten.hoegholm@LATEX-PROJECT.ORG> writes:
>
>> I would assume the following should be equivalent except for the
>> latter being expandable.
>>
>> \def\cmd#1{\edef\tempa{#1}\expandafter\cmd\expandafter{\tempa}}
>>
>> \def\cmd#1{\expandafter\cmd\expandafter{\expanded{#1}}}
>
> No.  The former would complain about isolated # tokens in #1 (and
> collapse double ones).

Ah yes (and sorry for the silly example above - it's really remarkably  
bad). You comment reminded me of something I added to l3tlp.dtx under the  
entry:

   r594 | morten | 2007-06-10 23:32:58 +0200 (Sun, 10 Jun 2007) | 2 lines

   Tried to make functions treat hash marks as uniform as possible


% A word of warning is appropriate here: Token list pointers are
% implemented as macros and as such currently inherit some of the
% peculiarities of how \TeX\ handles "#"s in the argument of
% macros. In particular, the following actions are legal
% \begin{verbatim}
% \tlp_set:Nn \l_tmpa_tlp{##1}
% \tlp_put_right:Nn \l_tmpa_tlp{##2}
% \tlp_set:No \l_tmpb_tlp{\l_tmpa_tlp ##3}
% \end{verbatim}
% |x| type expansions where macros being expanded contain |#|s do not
% work and will not work until there is an |\expanded| primitive in
% the engine. If you want them to work you must double |#|s another
% level.


All the more reason for \expanded...

'night,
-- 
Morten