Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:42:17 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBACgE53021176 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:42:14 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBACYOwn025284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:34:24 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB9N1KOI008751; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:36:24 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.0) with spool id 215684 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:36:24 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBACQNuT015189 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:26:23 +0100 Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.248]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBACODeS006898 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:24:17 +0100 Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 55so642242hsc for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.39.14 with SMTP id m14mr7227278wxm.1197289574839; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.19.9 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:26:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87k5nxw76i.fsf@buckbeak.hogwarts> <87tzmwkdnr.fsf@buckbeak.hogwarts> <20071209212128.GA30932@irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de> <475D1892.70201@elvenkind.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c13927f8c47327ae Message-ID: <68c491a60712100426r20672e06n1e5115d383e0dafe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:26:14 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Subject: Re: [NTG-pdftex] \expanded To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <475D1892.70201@elvenkind.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2007 12:42:17.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[19368DD0:01C83B2A] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5111 2007/12/10, Taco Hoekwater : > > Biggest problem is probably a good name: > > a) \expanded would be a nice name, but it clashes with ConTeXt. > > I remember trouble with \unexpanded :-( > > b) It would belong to e-TeX, but there isn't a e-TeX prefix: > > \etexexpanded or \etexexpand > > c) pdfTeX's convention with prefix "\pdf" (see \pdfstrcmp, \pdfescape*): > > \pdfexpanded or \pdfexpand > > d) longer names > > > > My preference is c) to avoid trouble with macro name clashes. > > I can live with a), then my package etexcmds would get a > > new macro \etex@expanded. > > Hans and I think a) would be fine. c) is somewhat silly as it is > not related to pdftex, and also a) combines nicely with the already > present \unexpanded. I agree. A patch is welcome. :-) Best Martin