Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:04:10 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lARJ44jr024826 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:04:05 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lARIxUtY028053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:59:31 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAQN1PiW013778; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:59:15 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.0) with spool id 197425 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:59:15 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lARIxFFb031280 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:59:15 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lARIvTuK030272 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:57:36 +0100 Received: from DOMINUS (p5B0CCFCB.dip.t-dialin.net [91.12.207.203]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML25U-1Ix5eG1Bhg-0000pN; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:59:08 +0100 References: <18249.57441.391405.468407@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <008a01c83026$f01a3900$14b2a8c0@DOMINUS> <18250.53690.194331.660833@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <005401c8305d$cf23a290$14b2a8c0@DOMINUS> <18251.16134.90835.686471@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <006a01c830c9$d1352560$14b2a8c0@DOMINUS> <18251.53934.527003.575084@morse.mittelbach-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Thread-Index: AcgwzkbX/3aAFF6cSROxQKbpPd8VzwAVqS7Q X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/tOYB8EillHIJcTOPo+rca79a1FQBhuM716Ca UIMOVfeiIYwHh+l3lP5HquNuxqhNW6gcLCOzXnIa8tW7Tzu8lw l9gpNYehb6Ih2QF//tRAYy3M02AbpsD X-Spam-Whitelist-Provider: Message-ID: <008401c83127$c6f994b0$14b2a8c0@DOMINUS> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:00:28 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Ulrich Dirr Organization: Art & Satz Subject: Re: Extending the output routine to middle floats To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <18251.53934.527003.575084@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2007 19:04:10.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AE03680:01C83128] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5085 > > this should be covered by my above definition (text above > > 16\baselineskip, float area 6\baselineskip, text after > > 42-(16+6)\baselineskip). > > as one possibility for specification (not the actual values but the concept: > which is fixed starting position with a given vertical size and one area > only). my question is what others should/could be supported? not one area but areas which can be in 0 to n columns with and without spans. > > I thought this was what I'd proposed. > > yes, I think so, you proposed option 2. But what about: > > > > * ...other ideas... > > is there any kind of reasonable rule set that is not covered > by my initial variations and should perhaps be supported as well? I don't think so. O.k., maybe we can think of an explicity given vertical offset which is added or subtracted after each column, e.g. tttt tttt tttt or tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt AAAA tttt tttt tttt tttt AAAA AAAA tttt tttt tttt tttt AAAA tttt AAAA tttt tttt AAAA tttt tttt AAAA tttt tttt AAAA tttt tttt tttt AAAA AAAA tttt tttt tttt tttt AAAA AAAA tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt tttt a magazine designer might like this idea to have picture material going like a sinus wave from page to page ... ;-) Or picture material always going in the outside column and going down somewhat after each chapter (like an index thumb). I will zap through some design books -- maybe I will find some other interesting variations. Ulrich