Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:49:55 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l7ENnoc6009252 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:49:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l7ENgpW5024875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:54 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l7EM13Ia028755; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:32 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.0) with spool id 113990 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:32 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l7ENgWwL030726 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:32 +0200 Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.53]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l7ENgO5Z024499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:28 +0200 Received: from mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D4C1E4F36 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27022DA967 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from commodore (pD9F4CD01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.244.205.1]) (Authenticated sender: mailing_list@arcor.de) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E6C19B322 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:42:22 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <46C0AE5B.7010308@arcor.de> <18112.53634.669944.358049@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3957/Tue Aug 14 07:48:58 2007 on mail-in-01.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <46C23A2A.8070905@arcor.de> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:26:34 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Stephan Hennig Subject: Re: xinitials and graphicx, xcolor To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <18112.53634.669944.358049@morse.mittelbach-online.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2007 23:49:55.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0FE57E0:01C7DECD] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5023 Frank Mittelbach schrieb: > Stephan, > > > the attached example with xinitials works as long as neither graphicx > > nor xcolor is used. Loading any of those packages (and possibly others) > > causes LaTeX to stop with an error, see below. In slides from TUG99 I read: > > > > > LATEX2e* is a collection of packages that run on top of LATEX2e > > you have to read the 1999/2000 statement as "runs on top of the 2e kernel", > but the more you stray away from that (by adding additional packages/third > party or not) the more fragile the situation gets. Thank you for pointing that out! > [...] > when I returned to it the books TLC2, LB2 and LGC2 took all my time Time well spent. Thanks for your comprehensive comments and giving a look behind the scenes! Best regards, Stephan Hennig