Received: from webgate.proteosys ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:11:18 +0200 Received: by webgate.proteosys (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6QHBHjv030553 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:11:17 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6QHA4vj024598; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:10:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6QCHjgO009282; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:07:12 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.3) with spool id 1293702 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:07:12 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6QH7C6Z018972 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:07:12 +0200 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6QH76Xx007687 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:07:10 +0200 Received: from turki.gavron.org (ool-45702ff2.dyn.optonline.net [69.112.47.242]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0J3000GZPSWAC8M1@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gavron by turki.gavron.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1G5mqA-0003NG-Eq for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:06:34 -0400 Mail-followup-to: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline References: <20060725200626.GA17975@turki.gavron.org> <200607260052.k6Q0qsB18894@f7.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Message-ID: <20060726170633.GG17975@turki.gavron.org> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:06:34 -0400 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: cga2000 Subject: Re: Switching fonts To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <200607260052.k6Q0qsB18894@f7.net> Precedence: list X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -2.464 () BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2006 17:11:19.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[82ED5680:01C6B0D6] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4981 On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 08:52:54PM EDT, Karl Berry wrote: > Hi Chris, > I think that what I am trying to achieve is something that would look > like it was born in MS Word or one of its OSS clones rather than in a > printer's shop. > > Try including only the second one: > \usepackage{mathptmx} > > You should get Times Roman, which is the default in Word. Works..! I couln't see much difference when I viewed the .dvi file on-screen .. and I was going to get back to you with additional questions. Then I thought I should print the file and add it to my collection of test printout .. and lo and behold .. the ouput has exactly that crisp constipated enterprise-ready look that I was desperately trying to achieve. Would you know if by any chance a repository of "LaTeX templates for all occasions" is available anywhere? I tend to learn much faster by example and I was thinking that such templates might help compensate for the fact that there does not appear to be much available in the way of a tutorial or HowTo. > > what would appear to be two maths package should result in a font > switch. > > You're right that it's a peculiar name. The "tm" buried in there is > actually an abbreviation for Times (don't ask). > > Background in case you care: The thing is that TeX has been around so > long, all the obvious names (like \usepackage{times}) were used long > ago. The new package (mathptmx) has different (and better) behavior > than the old, and to keep old documents working, we don't want to change > the behavior without also changing the name. Having the plethora of > different names is a downside in itself, granted, but breaking old > documents seems worse, so ... here we are. > Yes but the end-result on a printed page looks so good that such aspects are unlikely to put me off. > Happy typesetting, So far so good.. :-) > Karl As and aside, I subscribed to this list only a few days ago - last Sunday, I believe, and so far I have received nothing apart from the two replies to this thread. I didn't find the list at gmane.org. Is there any place where I can view daily updates to the list .. just to make sure I am set up correctly? Sorry about the [OT] but I don't know where to ask. Thank you very much. Chris.