Received: from webgate.proteosys ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:56:26 +0200 Received: by webgate.proteosys (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6Q0uPRS029305 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:56:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6Q0rHZo024042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:53:17 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6PM1aHX018602; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:53:03 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.3) with spool id 1288555 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:53:02 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6Q0r2ff019951 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:53:02 +0200 Received: from f7.net (server1.f7.net [64.34.169.74]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6Q0qula023984 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:53:00 +0200 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.7-20030920/8.11.7) id k6Q0qsB18894; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:52:54 -0500 Message-ID: <200607260052.k6Q0qsB18894@f7.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:52:54 -0500 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Karl Berry Subject: Re: Switching fonts To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <20060725200626.GA17975@turki.gavron.org> Precedence: list X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -1.856 () AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2006 00:56:27.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[52F76340:01C6B04E] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4980 Hi Chris, I think that what I am trying to achieve is something that would look like it was born in MS Word or one of its OSS clones rather than in a printer's shop. Try including only the second one: \usepackage{mathptmx} You should get Times Roman, which is the default in Word. what would appear to be two maths package should result in a font switch. You're right that it's a peculiar name. The "tm" buried in there is actually an abbreviation for Times (don't ask). Background in case you care: The thing is that TeX has been around so long, all the obvious names (like \usepackage{times}) were used long ago. The new package (mathptmx) has different (and better) behavior than the old, and to keep old documents working, we don't want to change the behavior without also changing the name. Having the plethora of different names is a downside in itself, granted, but breaking old documents seems worse, so ... here we are. Happy typesetting, Karl