Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:13 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j4B8tA0w027136 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4B8rWfK000922; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:53:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.176]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id j4AM1Tqw009425; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:50:20 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 211205 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:50:19 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id j4B8oId4025941 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:50:19 +0200 Received: from mail35.messagelabs.com (mail35.messagelabs.com [62.231.131.195]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4B8qmfK000572 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:48 +0200 (MET DST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: davidc@nag.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-22.tower-35.messagelabs.com!1115801426!27889831!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.11; banners=nag.co.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [212.125.75.71] Received: (qmail 10154 invoked from network); 11 May 2005 08:50:26 -0000 Received: from smtp-2.star.net.uk (212.125.75.71) by server-22.tower-35.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 May 2005 08:50:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9078 invoked from network); 11 May 2005 08:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nag.co.uk) (62.231.145.242) by smtp-2.star.net.uk with SMTP; 11 May 2005 08:50:25 -0000 Received: from penguin.nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@penguin.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.14]) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06166 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:50:17 +0100 (BST) Received: by penguin.nag.co.uk (8.9.3) id JAA05957; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:50:17 +0100 References: <1c0fbe0520d085d2578bc565ff248163@guerilla.net.au> <20050427075026.GD10313@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> <1c0fbe0520d085d2578bc565ff248163@guerilla.net.au> <20050510081921.GA19993@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> <200505101100.MAA00451@penguin.nag.co.uk> <20050510121612.GB19993@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> <200505101300.OAA00961@penguin.nag.co.uk> <20050510132157.GC19993@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: <200505110850.JAA05957@penguin.nag.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:50:17 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: David Carlisle Subject: Re: new^2 font selection scheme To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <20050510132157.GC19993@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> (message from Achim Blumensath on Tue, 10 May 2005 15:21:57 +0200) Precedence: list X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang at proteosys.com Return-Path: owner-latex-l@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 08:55:15.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[25F8A860:01C55607] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4878 > We load it with \globaldefs=1 hmm, keyval might be OK in that case but you see why the general restriction on not loading arbitrary packages is there. If any package goes {\catcode\something=something \gdef\xyz{...} ... } then it's rather messed up if globaldefs is set as the catcode (or any other local) changes leak out. Also the { ..} group would leave a mathord atom and affect the spacing if the font is first used in math mode. So in general the class of packages that are safe to load in an fd file is a restricted subset of the general set of latex packages. Although obviously any particular case may be set (and as I said at the beginning I haven't looked at the MinionPro font set up so I didn't mean to imply that that was broken, just that skating on thin ice is basically dangerous and that it's reasonable to put up a general sign saying no skating, even if experts may chose to ignore the signs and go on the ice with care. David ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________