Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:49:11 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j2Q4n9Ni008006 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:49:09 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2Q4jFfK028225; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:45:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.176]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id j2PN0sd5017400; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:42:55 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 183535 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:42:53 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id j2Q4gpYd030776 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:42:52 +0100 Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (trmail.triumf.ca [142.90.100.150]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2Q4iPtL010451 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:44:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from mutant (mutant.triumf.ca [142.90.112.22]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2Q4hLP05650 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:43:22 -0800 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050325194659.02471690@pop3.web.de> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:46:49 -0800 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Donald Arseneau Organization: TRIUMF: Canada's national meson facility Subject: Re: \@reinserts To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: Precedence: list X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang at proteosys.com Return-Path: owner-latex-l@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2005 04:49:12.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[27F50210:01C531BF] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4839 David Kastrup writes: > > > > This probably doesn't belong on this list, so email me. > > Guffaw. Output routine design details in connection with LaTeX don't > belong on the LaTeX-L list? I was rushed to finish off. What I meant to say is that I could look at some specific failed attempt to use \holdinginserts, and would take that by direct mail. The problem with \penalty\outputpenalty is that \outputpenalty=10000 and prevents the same page break instead of forcing the same break. I would use a unique force-break penalty. -- Donald Arseneau asnd@triumf.ca