Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:17:47 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i6B7HhUO014942 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:17:44 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6B7E9IY008247; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:14:09 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C46717.2A9C1F80" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.176]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id i69401mU008227; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:11:48 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 380798 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:11:48 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id i6B7Bl0E031353 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:11:47 +0200 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.185]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6B7DZBp021560 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:13:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [212.227.126.208] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BjYWl-0000PQ-00 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:13:35 +0200 Received: from [80.129.15.188] (helo=istrati.mittelbach-online.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BjYWl-00080n-00 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:13:35 +0200 Received: (from frank@localhost) by istrati.mittelbach-online.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id i6B7BaZ26571; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:11:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20040710.193109.75754534.wl@gnu.org> References: <20040710.193109.75754534.wl@gnu.org> Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under Emacs 20.7.1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2004 07:17:47.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B06A120:01C46717] X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.mittelbach-online.de: frank set sender to frank@mittelbach-online.de using -f X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:923c546e49b26a7485eda6910e23f403 X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: 0.2 () RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_SORBS Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: utf8 input encoding problem Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 08:11:36 +0100 Message-ID: A<16624.59432.585948.305432@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: utf8 input encoding problem Thread-Index: AcRnFysmZTZIVZt1QQieQTtfxc4xtA== From: "Frank Mittelbach" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4803 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C46717.2A9C1F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Werner LEMBERG writes: > Is the LaTeX team aware that by choosing `utf8' as an input encoding > name, many documents which use Dominique Unruh's utf8.def file no > longer compile? Why hasn't been chosen a different name, say, > `utf-8'? because the agreed solution was to use utf8 for the kernel. from = Dominique: =3D=3D=3D 5. Interoperability with ucs.sty There are some name clashes with my Unicode package. - utf8.def: I accept the fact, that this is the canonical name for that file and will rename my inputencoding in favour of the kernel's encoding. > I consider this a serious compatibility problem which should be fixed > ASAP, deserving an intermediate LaTeX release. no. there is probably some more work to do to make the extended version = work nicely with the kernel one but that is/should happen behind the scenes frank ------_=_NextPart_001_01C46717.2A9C1F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: utf8 input encoding problem

Werner LEMBERG writes:

 > Is the LaTeX team aware that by choosing = `utf8' as an input encoding
 > name, many documents which use Dominique = Unruh's utf8.def file no
 > longer compile?  Why hasn't been = chosen a different name, say,
 > `utf-8'?

because the agreed solution was to use utf8 for the = kernel. from Dominique:

   =3D=3D=3D 5. Interoperability with = ucs.sty

   There are some name clashes with my = Unicode package.

   - utf8.def: I accept the fact, that this = is the canonical name for
   that file and will rename my = inputencoding in favour of the kernel's
   encoding.


 > I consider this a serious compatibility = problem which should be fixed
 > ASAP, deserving an intermediate LaTeX = release.

no. there is probably some more work to do to make the = extended version work
nicely with the kernel one but that is/should happen = behind the scenes

frank

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