Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:44:54 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h75Eipsc030700 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:44:52 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h75EaQGl003576; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:36:26 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C35B60.21E2B700" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h752Ae0w006006; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:34:54 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0713 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:34:54 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h75EYsq0013586 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:34:54 +0200 Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (sunshine.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h75Ea7mp002235 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:36:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from psi.math.utah.edu (IDENT:z0i2ISPIMaRHNzMKbeOcd2xYlvPScB21@psi.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.32]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15779; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by psi.math.utah.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) id IAA14524; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:36:05 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:34:56 -0400 Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2003 14:44:54.0483 (UTC) FILETIME=[222C6A30:01C35B60] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) x-url: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe X-Spam-Score: -6.6 () IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT x-fax: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 x-us-mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" x-telephone: +1 801 581 5254 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: psnfss [sans serif fonts in publishing] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:36:05 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: psnfss [sans serif fonts in publishing] Thread-Index: AcNbYCJHmkoxwa06QlSW2B7SGrjrgg== From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4735 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35B60.21E2B700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable William Adams writes on Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:34:56 = -0400: >> Books set in all sans serif are moderately common in Europe, somewhat >> rare in the UK, fairly rare in Canada and pretty uncommon in the US. One large US publisher does a lot of sans serif publishing, and has for 35+ years: IBM. While many of their technical manuals are now available in HTML, and thus, in any font the user chooses, printed manuals and online PDF manuals are traditionally in sans serif. See any of the books at http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/redbooks/ for recent examples. The IBM Systems Journal and IBM Journal of Research and Development use sans serif for abstracts, and serif for body text. The four Motorola books on my shelf are also all in sans serif, while DEC's (later Compaq, now HP) and Intel's are serifed. Jan V. White's excellent books on book design, ``Color for the Electronic Age'' and ``Graphic Design for the Electronic Age'', are set in sans serif. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 = - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 = - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: = beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB beebe@acm.org = beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org = - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: = http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35B60.21E2B700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: psnfss [sans serif fonts in publishing]

William Adams <wadams@ATLIS.COM> writes on Tue, = 5 Aug 2003 08:34:56 -0400:

>> Books set in all sans serif are moderately = common in Europe, somewhat
>> rare in the UK, fairly rare in Canada and = pretty uncommon in the US.

One large US publisher does a lot of sans serif = publishing, and has
for 35+ years: IBM.  While many of their = technical manuals are now
available in HTML, and thus, in any font the user = chooses, printed
manuals and online PDF manuals are traditionally in = sans serif.  See
any of the books at

        http://pu= blib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/redbooks/

for recent examples.  The IBM Systems Journal and = IBM Journal of
Research and Development use sans serif for = abstracts, and serif for
body text.

The four Motorola books on my shelf are also all in = sans serif, while
DEC's (later Compaq, now HP) and Intel's are = serifed.

Jan V. White's excellent books on book design, ``Color = for the
Electronic Age'' and ``Graphic Design for the = Electronic Age'', are
set in sans serif.

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