Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:41:02 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h75Cevsc030185 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:41:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h75CZQGl011794; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:35:26 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C35B4E.D4118300" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h752Aexq006006; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:34:05 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0645 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:34:05 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h75CY5q0012680 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:34:05 +0200 Received: from A1.atlis.com (host5.atlis.com [216.181.97.5]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h75CZNmp011104 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:35:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from atlis.com (host-216-153-178-55.har.choiceone.net [216.153.178.55]) by A1.atlis.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h75CbDe01798 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:37:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wadams@atlis.com) In-Reply-To: <3F2F9DA1.20001@aqit.com> Organization: Atlis Systems, Inc. (301) 578-4200 info@atlis.com Return-Path: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2003 12:41:03.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4BE8BE0:01C35B4E] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -3.3 () IN_REP_TO Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: psnfss Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:34:56 +0100 Message-ID: A<383C551C-C741-11D7-BA1A-0050E4455404@atlis.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: psnfss Thread-Index: AcNbTtThjajNcFMJSNOzJdWLaLG36g== From: "William Adams" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4734 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35B4E.D4118300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Antonio said: > On the last page of the manual psnfss2e.pdf there is > the sample sentence: > > 'D'ont use Avant Garde for typesetting > larger portions of text!'. > > I absolutely don't agree with that! > (The problem could be only the size of the font, like > Helvetica, but that problem is solvable, as I suggest) > It is sufficient to typeset just a page of text with > the Avant Garde font, and to print it with a good printer, > to convince oneself that the Avant Garde font is a very > beautiful font. > This is not only a personal opinion: there are lots of > books typesetted with the Avant Garde font that you can > buy in bookstores, at least in Italy, wehere I live. It's a regional thing, and to my mind, a matter of what one is accustomed to. Books set in all sans serif are moderately common in Europe, somewhat rare in the UK, fairly rare in Canada and pretty uncommon in the US. The normal argument (Tinkel, et. al.) is that serifs aid readability by guiding the eye along. Familiarity seems far more likely, given that actual studies timing reading rates are AFAIK, inconclusive. It would be nice if the docs had a more international feel / flavour, and took greater care of such sensibilities. William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35B4E.D4118300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: psnfss

Antonio said:
> On the last page of the manual psnfss2e.pdf = there is
> the sample sentence:
>
>    'D'ont use Avant Garde for = typesetting
>     larger portions of = text!'.
>
> I absolutely don't agree with that!
> (The problem could be only the size of the font, = like
> Helvetica, but that problem is solvable, as I = suggest)

> It is sufficient to typeset just a page of text = with
> the Avant Garde font, and to print it with a = good printer,
> to convince oneself that the Avant Garde font is = a very
> beautiful font.

> This is not only a personal opinion: there are = lots of
> books typesetted with the Avant Garde font that = you can
> buy in bookstores, at least in Italy, wehere I = live.

It's a regional thing, and to my mind, a matter of = what one is
accustomed to.

Books set in all sans serif are moderately common in = Europe, somewhat
rare in the UK, fairly rare in Canada and pretty = uncommon in the US.

The normal argument (Tinkel, et. al.) is that serifs = aid readability by
guiding the eye along.

Familiarity seems far more likely, given that actual = studies timing
reading rates are AFAIK, inconclusive.

It would be nice if the docs had a more international = feel / flavour,
and took greater care of such sensibilities.

William


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