Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:58:19 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h6IAwBcH003673 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:58:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6IAqqmp000026; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:52 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34D1B.7F32D780" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6HM0DYr008378; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:20 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0730 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:19 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6IAqJM9015451 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:19 +0200 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6IAqlGl002004 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19dSr1-0004lZ-00 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:47 +0200 Received: from [80.129.11.213] (helo=istrati.mittelbach-online.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19dSr1-00005B-00 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:47 +0200 Received: (from frank@localhost) by istrati.mittelbach-online.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id h6IAmZG03134; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:48:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20030710081528.A12401@diabolo.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <16150.26432.179873.408825@pussy.npc.de> <200307171952.38152.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> <16151.45086.191107.970370@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under Emacs 20.7.1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2003 10:58:19.0699 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F9D8030:01C34D1B] X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.mittelbach-online.de: frank set sender to frank@mittelbach-online.de using -f X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -29.9 () EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_VM,X_AUTH_WARNING Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: XML, UTF-8 and TeX engines Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:48:34 +0100 Message-ID: A<16151.53378.686801.544079@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: XML, UTF-8 and TeX engines Thread-Index: AcNNG3+9Y17/1ubAThSHFcFlBhA2rw== From: "Frank Mittelbach" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4706 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D1B.7F32D780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Torsten Bronger writes: > Thank you for this link. I wasn't aware of it, and not of this > \relax necessity. So is it better that I generate > \begin{eqnarray}\relax instead of just \begin{eqnarray}? no that would be wrong, \relax generates a mathord and this is precisely why you can't define commands in TeX to go \relax\iffmode... as this messes up spacing. anyhow i'm not sure why you would want to = have a \relax there (and eqnarry is inferior for doing serious math compared to = the amsmath environments) frank ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D1B.7F32D780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: XML, UTF-8 and TeX engines

Torsten Bronger writes:
 > Thank you for this link.  I wasn't = aware of it, and not of this
 > \relax necessity.  So is it better = that I generate
 > \begin{eqnarray}\relax instead of just = \begin{eqnarray}?

no that would be wrong, \relax generates a mathord and = this is precisely
why you can't define commands in TeX to go

 \relax\iffmode...

as this messes up spacing. anyhow i'm not sure why you = would want to have a
\relax there (and eqnarry is inferior for doing = serious math compared to the
amsmath environments)

frank

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