Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:36:45 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h6HJaGcH001075 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:36:44 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HJTomp014628; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:29:50 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34C9A.C1680480" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6GM0Ag9028243; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:29:21 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2270 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:29:20 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6HJT3M9006470 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:29:03 +0200 Received: from william.murphy.ie (c104-141.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.104.141]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HJTNGn010178 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:29:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from william.murphy.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by william.murphy.ie (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6HIqjot002593; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:52:50 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by william.murphy.ie (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h6HIqcrK002590; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:52:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin References: <20030710081528.A12401@diabolo.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <16150.26432.179873.408825@pussy.npc.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2003 19:36:56.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[C87BD8A0:01C34C9A] User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 x-mime-autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id h6HJT3M9006471 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -32.2 () EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: XML, UTF-8 and TeX engines Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:52:38 +0100 Message-ID: A<200307171952.38152.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: XML, UTF-8 and TeX engines Thread-Index: AcNMmsiX64/8zJGCQhS3ZQDyJpfuuQ== From: "Timothy Murphy" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4691 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C9A.C1680480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 17 July 2003 11:10, Torsten Bronger wrote: > Surprisingly enough, TeX is the most serious limitation at the > moment (of course also because it's so vital). It's still the best > back-end for typesetting something, however its treatment of > so-called special characters, lack of true unicode support, and the > distinction text/math mode is really unfortunate. Wouldn't "true unicode support" require fonts with 64000 glyphs? And isn't it quite sensible to distinguish between text and maths? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C9A.C1680480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: XML, UTF-8 and TeX engines

On Thursday 17 July 2003 11:10, Torsten Bronger = wrote:

> Surprisingly enough, TeX is the most serious = limitation at the
> moment (of course also because it's so = vital).  It's still the best
> back-end for typesetting something, however its = treatment of
> so-called special characters, lack of true = unicode support, and the
> distinction text/math mode is really = unfortunate.

Wouldn't "true unicode support" require = fonts with 64000 glyphs?

And isn't it quite sensible to distinguish between = text and maths?

--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-86-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, = Dublin 2, Ireland

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