Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:59:27 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h69AxNPP019676 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:59:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69ArRGl021041; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:53:28 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34609.2A031180" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h68M02aP007911; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:53:06 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0857 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:53:06 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h69Ar6M9014212 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:53:06 +0200 Received: from smtp13.eresmas.com ([62.81.235.113]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69Ar7mp002898 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:53:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [192.168.108.53] (helo=mx03.eresmas.com) by smtp13.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 19aCZN-0003qn-00 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:53:05 +0200 Received: from [62.37.82.104] (helo=Ordenador-de-Javier-Bezos.local.) by mx03.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19aCZM-0004Uu-00 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:53:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3F0BE0E6.E87B2479@MartinHensel.de> References: <3BFEACE361F5BF429DD1DA593E3A7C0922406A@xch-nw-28.nw.nos.boeing.com> <3F0BE0E6.E87B2479@MartinHensel.de> Return-Path: X-Mailer: GyazMail version 0.9.3 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2003 10:59:28.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AC15870:01C34609] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Score: -19.8 () IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) x-sa-exim-scanned: Yes Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 syntax Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:52:33 +0100 Message-ID: A<20030709125233758308.GyazMail.jbezos@wanadoo.es> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 syntax Thread-Index: AcNGCSrjXB0qN1ZiQFWruWF8CzwNOA== From: "Javier Bezos" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4665 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34609.2A031180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > as delimiters in order to avoid the special treatment of spaces after > commands. ("It's really easy to forget to put in something like \ > after a control word. I promise you that you will do it at least once > while you're learning to use TeX." Doob: A Gentle Introduction to TeX) Agreed. And I promise you that you will do it now and then even if you are an experienced user. In a class I've written recently intended for new users, I added a \charname{name} to avoid this problem (ie, \charname{bullet} =3D {\textbullet}). I would note that &LaTeX; is not very readable and that is somewhat clumsy (XML does not allows , which would be the most readable option). This is one of the interesting points of your proposal (which has some weak points, too). Let me say that your last e-mail is far more interesting than syntax.pdf because it explains the reasons of the syntax. If we become Tcl'ish with these [ ] is not, imo, the relevant point, but the motivations and some of the proposals (from a conceptual point of view). Javier ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34609.2A031180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 = syntax

> as delimiters in order to avoid the special = treatment of spaces after
> commands. ("It's really easy to forget to = put in something like \
> after a control word. I promise you that you = will do it at least once
> while you're learning to use TeX." Doob: A = Gentle Introduction to TeX)

Agreed. And I promise you that you will do it now and = then
even if you are an experienced user. In a class I've = written
recently intended for new users, I added a = \charname{name}
to avoid this problem (ie, \charname{bullet} =3D = {\textbullet}).
I would note that &LaTeX; is not very readable = and that
<LaTeX/> is somewhat clumsy (XML does not = allows <LaTeX>,
which would be the most readable option).

This is one of the interesting points of your = proposal
(which has some weak points, too). Let me say that = your
last e-mail is far more interesting than
syntax.pdf because it explains the reasons of = the
syntax. If we become Tcl'ish with these [ ] is not, = imo,
the relevant point, but the motivations and some = of
the proposals (from a conceptual point of = view).

Javier

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