Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:20:28 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h68FKPPP015945 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:20:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68F5FGl023653; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:05:15 +0200 (MET DST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34564.76484600" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h681c0a3029100; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:05:03 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1043 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:05:02 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h68F52M9004555 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:05:02 +0200 Received: from dcdrjh.fnal.gov (dcdrjh.fnal.gov [131.225.232.66]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68F51mp008966 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:05:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dcdrjh.fnal.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dcdrjh.fnal.gov (8.12.9/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id h68F4rAb072217 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:04:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from herber@localhost) by dcdrjh.fnal.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h68F4qm2072053; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:04:52 -0500 (CDT) References: <3F058C1B.32BF3DF5@MartinHensel.de> <3F05A7AB.DAE49A64@MartinHensel.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2003 15:20:28.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[76A33740:01C34564] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 () REFERENCES Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 syntax Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:04:52 +0100 Message-ID: A<200307081504.h68F4qm2072053@dcdrjh.fnal.gov> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 syntax Thread-Index: AcNFZHbAEKHtrjn/TT2Mfrr6Gcu6Fg== From: "Randolph J. Herber" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4660 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34564.76484600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following header lines retained to effect attribution: |Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:24:02 +0100 |From: Martin Hensel |Subject: Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 = syntax |To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de |Reply-to: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project [SNIP] |The intoduction of intuitive graphical user interfaces was a very |important step for Linux, for instance. It was not necessary for a |programmer, it was necessary for the users who found this easier to |use. It was only cosmetical, but brought Linux forward a great step. [SNIP] |Martin Then, apparently you have not attempted to use Red Hat Linux 9. It is apparent to me that Red Hat did their best to remove the command line interfaces that they could, to remove as many user choices as they could and to make the user interface as = graphical and as Microsoft Windows like as they could. The result is a system that is almost unusable. Randolph J. Herber, herber@fnal.gov, +1 630 840 2966, CD/CDFTF PK-149F, Mail Stop 318, Fermilab, Kirk & Pine Rds., PO Box 500, Batavia, IL = 60510-0500, USA. (Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.) = (Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34564.76484600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Invitation for discussion: My suggestion for a LaTeX3 = syntax

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|Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:24:02 +0100
|From: Martin Hensel = <mail@MARTINHENSEL.DE>
|Subject: Re: Invitation for discussion: My = suggestion for a LaTeX3 syntax
|To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de
|Reply-to: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project

        = [SNIP]

|The intoduction of intuitive graphical user = interfaces was a very
|important step for Linux, for instance. It was not = necessary for a
|programmer, it was necessary for the users who found = this easier to
|use. It was only cosmetical, but brought Linux = forward a great step.

        = [SNIP]

|Martin

        Then, = apparently you have not attempted to use Red Hat Linux 9.

        It is = apparent to me that Red Hat did their best to remove the
        command = line interfaces that they could, to remove as many user
        choices as = they could and to make the user interface as graphical
        and as = Microsoft Windows like as they could.  The result is a
        system = that is almost unusable.

Randolph J. Herber, herber@fnal.gov, +1 630 840 2966, = CD/CDFTF PK-149F,
Mail Stop 318, Fermilab, Kirk & Pine Rds., PO Box = 500, Batavia, IL 60510-0500,
USA.  (Speaking for myself and not for US, US = DOE, FNAL nor URA.)  (Product,
trade, or service marks herein belong to their = respective owners.)

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