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Subject:      Re: xhead - a template pretending to be like fancyhdr
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:20:32 +0100
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Thread-Topic:      Re: xhead - a template pretending to be like fancyhdr
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From: "Wilson, Peter R" <peter.r.wilson@BOEING.COM>
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    Thanks to Achim and Javier for their comments.

Achim:
    This was my first attempt at doing anything with templates and I was =
just happy to get something that seemed to work. If I can't get the =
notion of instances into my head I'll ask about them later.

Javier:
    In the standard classes, and the memoir class, the marks do not =
naturally include any formatting information --- all that the \chapter, =
etc., commands do is make the title available to a \chaptermark, etc., =
macro. The pagestyle code defines the \chaptermark and that is where the =
formating is specified.

    There is no reason why the pagestyle mechanism cannot use its =
definition of \...mark to store the the number and title as =
\chapternumber and \chaptertitle macros. I guess, though, that you are =
suggesting that \chapter define these macros instead of letting the page =
style code define them if it needs them.

    If LaTeX3 can support arbitrary areas on the page then your =
suggestion of any number/location of head/foot areas is interesting. On =
the other hand, the zero-sized picture method seems to provide an =
adequate means of putting things at specified positions on the page.

    Come to think about that, how about only one head area and do =
everything else (e.g., n-number of head sub-areas, foot areas, side =
areas) via zero-sized pictures?

Peter W.

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks to Achim and Javier for =
their comments.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Achim:</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This was my first attempt at doing =
anything with templates and I was just happy to get something that =
seemed to work. If I can't get the notion of instances into my head I'll =
ask about them later.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Javier:</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In the standard classes, and the =
memoir class, the marks do not naturally include any formatting =
information --- all that the \chapter, etc., commands do is make the =
title available to a \chaptermark, etc., macro. The pagestyle code =
defines the \chaptermark and that is where the formating is =
specified.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There is no reason why the =
pagestyle mechanism cannot use its definition of \...mark to store the =
the number and title as \chapternumber and \chaptertitle macros. I =
guess, though, that you are suggesting that \chapter define these macros =
instead of letting the page style code define them if it needs =
them.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If LaTeX3 can support arbitrary =
areas on the page then your suggestion of any number/location of =
head/foot areas is interesting. On the other hand, the zero-sized =
picture method seems to provide an adequate means of putting things at =
specified positions on the page.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Come to think about that, how about =
only one head area and do everything else (e.g., n-number of head =
sub-areas, foot areas, side areas) via zero-sized pictures?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Peter W.</FONT>
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