Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:15:08 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0Q1F66C021771 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:15:06 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h0PD7Jtt003255; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:07:19 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C4D8.5D793600" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h0P98B6r025777; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:53:25 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10035 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:53:24 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h0PChO5f026456 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:43:24 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h0PCoftt001364 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from fwd08.sul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18cPlg-0004ET-02; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:40 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (520018396234-0001@[217.80.160.84]) by fmrl08.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18cPld-0CEwz2C; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:37 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0PCoZ6N027822 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:36 +0100 Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h0PCoZNi027818; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:35 +0100 Lines: 28 Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 01:15:08.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DDE8780:01C2C4D8] X-Sender: 520018396234-0001@t-dialin.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 () SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: ltxgrid? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:33 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ltxgrid? Thread-Index: AcLE2F4VDCyq7UzmQOaqNNir/VYqsA== From: "David Kastrup" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4497 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C4D8.5D793600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, here is a question which probably has been discussed to death already but which I would not know due to being a newcomer on this list: Has anybody of the LaTeX3 team yet taken a look at the ltxgrid package by Arthur Ogawa? While it does not have the figure placement folderol of xor, it does offer nice ways of extending output routines, both in the area of the actual code as well as magical penalties (<-20000), can make longtable play together with multiple columns and so on. It does not do what xor does out of the box, but it offers much nicer hooks for playing together with others. The magical penalty stuff is basically what I had been proposing, only that there is missing an allocation macro for the same, and that there is missing a _context_ for the same, since one might want to have one and the same penalty behave differently whether one is in an output routine for a particular column, or just rushing a footnote box through penalty processing in order to get margine notes and so on. The stuff is used in RevTeX4. It is probably not a bad idea to skim for some ideas... although you probably have done so already. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C4D8.5D793600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ltxgrid?

Ok, here is a question which probably has been = discussed to death
already but which I would not know due to being a = newcomer on this
list:

Has anybody of the LaTeX3 team yet taken a look at the = ltxgrid package
by Arthur Ogawa?  While it does not have the = figure placement
folderol of xor, it does offer nice ways of extending = output
routines, both in the area of the actual code as well = as magical
penalties (<-20000), can make longtable play = together with multiple
columns and so on.

It does not do what xor does out of the box, but it = offers much nicer
hooks for playing together with others.  The = magical penalty stuff is
basically what I had been proposing, only that there = is missing an
allocation macro for the same, and that there is = missing a _context_
for the same, since one might want to have one and = the same penalty
behave differently whether one is in an output = routine for a
particular column, or just rushing a footnote box = through penalty
processing in order to get margine notes and so = on.

The stuff is used in RevTeX4.

It is probably not a bad idea to skim for some = ideas...  although you
probably have done so already.

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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