Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:38:03 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0M0c16C006545 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:38:01 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h0M0QhAa020936; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:26:43 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C1AE.859E2780" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h0LN0471021675; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:19:06 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6450 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:19:06 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h0M0J55f022074 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:19:05 +0100 Received: from vsu.ru (relay1.vsu.ru [62.76.169.14]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h0M0QDAa020856 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:26:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from vvv.vsu.ru ([62.76.223.138] verified) by vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP id 1827802 for LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 03:26:12 +0300 In-Reply-To: <15917.34802.962666.651753@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Lines: 28 References: <15917.5131.149954.42674@lin2.idris.fr> <15917.9950.434672.425660@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> <200301211410.54545.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> <15917.34802.962666.651753@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 00:38:03.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[86017D30:01C2C1AE] User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -3.6 () EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LICR objects in math Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:27:03 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: LICR objects in math Thread-Index: AcLBroYvIy5zJGfyT0KRWukxPPVW7w== From: "Vladimir Volovich" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C1AE.859E2780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "FM" =3D=3D Frank Mittelbach writes: >> I didn't really understand the mention of cyrillic in this context >> -- are these russian letters to be used with mathematical >> meanings? As far as I know, even Russian mathematicians don't use >> cyrillic in their maths (though I could be wrong about that). FM> well Vladimir is certainly able to say so with more authority but FM> to my knowledge people use cyrillic letters (and greek FM> definitely). perhaps not when the write up for a US or Irish FM> journal though :-) yes, - indeed there are some cases when people use cyrillic letters to denote mathematical notions (objects), just like latin letters. some examples are cyrillic variants of GCD (greatest common divisor) and SCM (smallest common multiple) which are denoted with cyrillic letters; projection operator in geometry (in russian literature); people use cyrillic letters in mathematical formulae in some non-strictly mathematician sciences (e.g. economics); there are some stable usages of cyrillic letters in physical notations (in russian texts). but there are also established cases when cyrillic letters are used internationally in strictly mathematical publications - e.g. Shafarevich groups in algebraic geometry are often denoted with capital cyrillic letter sha - not only in russian literature! Best, v. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C1AE.859E2780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LICR objects in math

"FM" =3D=3D Frank Mittelbach writes:

 >> I didn't really understand the mention = of cyrillic in this context
 >> -- are these russian letters to be = used with mathematical
 >> meanings?  As far as I know, even = Russian mathematicians don't use
 >> cyrillic in their maths (though I = could be wrong about that).

 FM> well Vladimir is certainly able to say so = with more authority but
 FM> to my knowledge people use cyrillic = letters (and greek
 FM> definitely). perhaps not when the write = up for a US or Irish
 FM> journal though :-)

yes, - indeed there are some cases when people use = cyrillic letters to
denote mathematical notions (objects), just like = latin letters.

some examples are cyrillic variants of GCD (greatest = common divisor)
and SCM (smallest common multiple) which are denoted = with cyrillic
letters; projection operator in geometry (in russian = literature);
people use cyrillic letters in mathematical formulae = in some
non-strictly mathematician sciences (e.g. economics); = there are some
stable usages of cyrillic letters in physical = notations (in russian
texts). but there are also established cases when = cyrillic letters are
used internationally in strictly mathematical = publications -
e.g. Shafarevich groups in algebraic geometry are = often denoted with
capital cyrillic letter sha - not only in russian = literature!

Best,
v.

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