Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:18:43 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h06NIb6C014344 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:18:40 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h06N1AwO003879; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:01:10 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2B5D9.F43D8B80" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h064ACeC008642; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:54:35 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5773 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:54:35 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h06MsZTk013939 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:54:35 +0100 Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (root@gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h06N12wO003848 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:01:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@gwyn [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h06N12bg006321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:01:02 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id h06N125K006319 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:01:02 +0100 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.oneiros.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25423 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:24:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <15897.49420.486809.50100@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> References: <15897.10031.19948.331055@cs.anu.edu.au> <15897.49420.486809.50100@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 23:18:43.0322 (UTC) FILETIME=[F46EADA0:01C2B5D9] mail-followup-to: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -3.3 () IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Proposed change of policy Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:24:53 +0100 Message-ID: A<20030106222453.GA25307@lucien.kn-bremen.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Proposed change of policy Thread-Index: AcK12fSNosk4y32ERQqc6i94qluNPA== From: "Martin Schroeder" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4403 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B5D9.F43D8B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003-01-06 18:46:52 +0100, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > nobody hinders you to do that right now: you could in a package > check if eTeX is there and if not print out a rude message and exit. = that is > what Martin called "etex aware" i guess. but it is slighly different = from No. :-) The trace package is eTeX aware: It offers additional functionality when used with eTeX. People need a reason to switch to eTeX but (and probably much more important) their old documents must still compile. > reservations for the reasons outlined above. but then encouraging = people to > provide packages that use eTeX features might be a first step in this > direction. Yes. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B5D9.F43D8B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Proposed change of policy

On 2003-01-06 18:46:52 +0100, Frank Mittelbach = wrote:
> nobody hinders you to do that right now: you = could in a package
> check if eTeX is there and if not print out a = rude message and exit. that is
> what Martin called "etex aware" i = guess. but it is slighly different from

No. :-)

The trace package is eTeX aware: It offers = additional
functionality when used with eTeX. People need a = reason to switch
to eTeX but (and probably much more important) their = old
documents must still compile.

> reservations for the reasons outlined above. but = then encouraging people to
> provide packages that use eTeX features might be = a first step in this
> direction.

Yes.

Best regards
    Martin
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